The GQP doesn’t respect election results when they lose, the right wing media is extorting members, the entire Republican Party are cowards, and the best argument Gym has is that “we need a speaker, it may as well be me”, even though he’s a bomb thrower, and insurrectionist, a rape enabler, and he begged for a pardon from Inmate #PO1135809.
I’m not sure I yet have the intestinal fortitude to contemplate the reality of a Jim Jordan speakership. And it sounds like he’s also giving away the store in order to secure votes from hold outs. So he either screws them over once he ascends to power or he will be forced to govern through compromise if he wants to accomplish anything. Going from bomb thrower to legislator could be a fascinating transformation to observe.
As I wrote this morning, Jordan can rule however he wants, but the bottom line will be the same one which faced McCarthy - the only way to get big bills done (spending bills / CR's / etc.) is a combination of votes from both parties. It will be pretty ironic if a CR was bad under McCarthy, but okay under Jordan. Same goes for aid to Ukraine.
If I was into the drama of daytime soap operas, I would totally vote for Santos as House Speaker (He has multiple secret identities?! He lied and manipulated his way into a position of power?!?! Where did he get that baby?!?!?!?!) but I’m not so.... no thanks 🙄 Jim Jordan is not too far behind him.
Is it possible for GOP members to defect from their current party and start up a brand new party (Repubs Reboot 2.0 Party, Snacilbuper Party? ) claiming they are in clear and present danger AND being held hostage by radicals that have infiltrated their party that they can no longer be associated with? I mean, how bad could it be to turn your back on reality TV star wannabes and take a stand for justice honor and decency on behalf of the American people you serve?
They could, but that's not really been a normal part of the US political system. Yes, we had the Whigs and the Free Soilers, the American Party, the Know-Nothings, etc in the 19th century. But the pull of the two party system has been too strong for third parties in Congress.
I wonder if our country would ever embrace ranked choice voting so we can get away from this 2 party debacle. I read somewhere that repubs used RCV amongst themselves in closed door meeting to initially select Scalise to run for speaker.
What the parties usually do behind closed doors is not exactly RCV, but let's say there are 5 candidates - the lowest vote getter is eliminated in the first round, etc until you get to 2.
We would have to do something about the electoral college if we want more than two parties all the way to the presidency. The EC could have handled multiple parties originally, when it was truly a deliberative body. But now it's a rubber stamp, and three parties would throw the election to the House, which might also get hung up.
The current GOP is made up of such cowards that not a single one will ever leave the party for fear of the violent cultists that trump created.
Watch today, they'll all fold under the fear of being primaried, insulted, harassed, threatened and literally murdered.
This is how naziism took formal and legal control of Germany, and we're in the end stages of the end of America. When Jordan becomes speaker, there will never be another election won by democrats that will be approved by this House.
The GQP doesn’t respect election results when they lose, the right wing media is extorting members, the entire Republican Party are cowards, and the best argument Gym has is that “we need a speaker, it may as well be me”, even though he’s a bomb thrower, and insurrectionist, a rape enabler, and he begged for a pardon from Inmate #PO1135809.
Pure filth.
I’m not sure I yet have the intestinal fortitude to contemplate the reality of a Jim Jordan speakership. And it sounds like he’s also giving away the store in order to secure votes from hold outs. So he either screws them over once he ascends to power or he will be forced to govern through compromise if he wants to accomplish anything. Going from bomb thrower to legislator could be a fascinating transformation to observe.
As I wrote this morning, Jordan can rule however he wants, but the bottom line will be the same one which faced McCarthy - the only way to get big bills done (spending bills / CR's / etc.) is a combination of votes from both parties. It will be pretty ironic if a CR was bad under McCarthy, but okay under Jordan. Same goes for aid to Ukraine.
Are you seeing any momentum from the House GOP toward getting rid of the motion to vacate or will Jordan be kept on the same short leash McCarthy was?
No change
Then the only speaker who could be even almost immune from removal would be one who compromised with the Dems and kept their promises.
Is the Speaker election going to be another GOP shit show? How many ballots will it take this time?
We've already had one - so, who knows!
Of all the people in the House, Jordan, Jesus Christ. May as well make Santos the Speaker...smh
If I was into the drama of daytime soap operas, I would totally vote for Santos as House Speaker (He has multiple secret identities?! He lied and manipulated his way into a position of power?!?! Where did he get that baby?!?!?!?!) but I’m not so.... no thanks 🙄 Jim Jordan is not too far behind him.
Is it possible for GOP members to defect from their current party and start up a brand new party (Repubs Reboot 2.0 Party, Snacilbuper Party? ) claiming they are in clear and present danger AND being held hostage by radicals that have infiltrated their party that they can no longer be associated with? I mean, how bad could it be to turn your back on reality TV star wannabes and take a stand for justice honor and decency on behalf of the American people you serve?
They could, but that's not really been a normal part of the US political system. Yes, we had the Whigs and the Free Soilers, the American Party, the Know-Nothings, etc in the 19th century. But the pull of the two party system has been too strong for third parties in Congress.
I wonder if our country would ever embrace ranked choice voting so we can get away from this 2 party debacle. I read somewhere that repubs used RCV amongst themselves in closed door meeting to initially select Scalise to run for speaker.
What the parties usually do behind closed doors is not exactly RCV, but let's say there are 5 candidates - the lowest vote getter is eliminated in the first round, etc until you get to 2.
Gotcha. My vote is still for RCV to make its way across the board. Maybe we won’t end up so polarized but who knows. Thanks for clarifying.
We would have to do something about the electoral college if we want more than two parties all the way to the presidency. The EC could have handled multiple parties originally, when it was truly a deliberative body. But now it's a rubber stamp, and three parties would throw the election to the House, which might also get hung up.
The current GOP is made up of such cowards that not a single one will ever leave the party for fear of the violent cultists that trump created.
Watch today, they'll all fold under the fear of being primaried, insulted, harassed, threatened and literally murdered.
This is how naziism took formal and legal control of Germany, and we're in the end stages of the end of America. When Jordan becomes speaker, there will never be another election won by democrats that will be approved by this House.