Forty-one charges based on one hundred and sixty-one specific actions; too bad much of America will ignore the actual indictment and depend on flippant phrases from their chosen talking head on TV or X.
I am reminded of an episode of The Andy Griffith Show where a spoiled friend of Opie’s continually acts like a spoiled brat. When confronted the final time the kid shows his true colors again and everyone realizes the boy only cares for himself. Sheriff Taylor then offers the father directions to the wood shed. Hopefully folks will see that is exactly what we have here.
I can only hope that the prosecutors for all these indictments have properly laid the groundwork and are able to unambiguously demonstrate how the defendants broke the law. It's vitally important that the prosecutors be able to refute accusations that the charges are just politically motivated attacks - and they can only do that by making a clear connection between the actions that were taken, the law, and the consequences. Of course there will be a segment of the population that will still scream 'witch hunt', regardless of how much evidence there is to the contrary - but for the rest of us a compelling set of facts, convincingly argued before a jury and adjudicated, is going to be essential.
No worries. The document Jamie linked is 98 pages long and lists all the details involved for each individual. I grabbed one example at random which looks pretty air-tight to me.
I'm not a lawyer but everywhere I look there seems to be agreement that the Georgia RICO statute is a model of excellence.
"On or about the 26th day of November 2020, RUDOLPH WILLIAM LOUIS GIULIANI and JENNA LYNN ELLIS placed telephone call to Speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives Bryan Cutler and left Cutler voicemail message for the purpose of soliciting, requesting, and importuning him to unlawfully appoint presidential electors from Pennsylvania. This was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy." (~page 22)
Thanks Stephanie, that's encouraging. I can't help but think that at least one or two of these indictments are going to have far reaching impacts. Depending on the outcomes, the consequences could be more than just an obscure footnote in history books written decades from now. We really do have to get this right.
My wife subscribes to The Status Kuo, and I do occasionally see those posts - and am regularly impressed by them.
In 2004 Howard Dean screamed awkwardly after the New Hampshire primary. His campaign soon ended because of the transgression. If only Trump made a public gaff, the GOP might move on.
Forty-one charges based on one hundred and sixty-one specific actions; too bad much of America will ignore the actual indictment and depend on flippant phrases from their chosen talking head on TV or X.
"And somehow, Trump remains the overwhelming favorite in the GOP race for President in 2024."
Your average American is an uneducated loser, and kind of an asshole too. There you go.
I hope the grand jurors remain safe. I didn't realize their names would be this public. What a tremendous amount of stress.
They and their families should receive protection services from whatever agency protects the governor in Georgia, at taxpayer expense.
I wonder if Lindsay Graham is one of the unindicted co-conspirators. I hope his name comes out of the co-conspirator who flipped.
I am reminded of an episode of The Andy Griffith Show where a spoiled friend of Opie’s continually acts like a spoiled brat. When confronted the final time the kid shows his true colors again and everyone realizes the boy only cares for himself. Sheriff Taylor then offers the father directions to the wood shed. Hopefully folks will see that is exactly what we have here.
I can only hope that the prosecutors for all these indictments have properly laid the groundwork and are able to unambiguously demonstrate how the defendants broke the law. It's vitally important that the prosecutors be able to refute accusations that the charges are just politically motivated attacks - and they can only do that by making a clear connection between the actions that were taken, the law, and the consequences. Of course there will be a segment of the population that will still scream 'witch hunt', regardless of how much evidence there is to the contrary - but for the rest of us a compelling set of facts, convincingly argued before a jury and adjudicated, is going to be essential.
No worries. The document Jamie linked is 98 pages long and lists all the details involved for each individual. I grabbed one example at random which looks pretty air-tight to me.
I'm not a lawyer but everywhere I look there seems to be agreement that the Georgia RICO statute is a model of excellence.
"On or about the 26th day of November 2020, RUDOLPH WILLIAM LOUIS GIULIANI and JENNA LYNN ELLIS placed telephone call to Speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives Bryan Cutler and left Cutler voicemail message for the purpose of soliciting, requesting, and importuning him to unlawfully appoint presidential electors from Pennsylvania. This was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy." (~page 22)
Willis's reputation puts me at ease about whether the case is airtight. I recommend The Status Kuo, also on Substance, for excellent legal analysis.
Thanks Stephanie, that's encouraging. I can't help but think that at least one or two of these indictments are going to have far reaching impacts. Depending on the outcomes, the consequences could be more than just an obscure footnote in history books written decades from now. We really do have to get this right.
My wife subscribes to The Status Kuo, and I do occasionally see those posts - and am regularly impressed by them.
“… in Fulton County we apply the law equally to everyone.”
That’s why republicans are so upset, they only understand preferential treatment for their criminals.
ZING
In 2004 Howard Dean screamed awkwardly after the New Hampshire primary. His campaign soon ended because of the transgression. If only Trump made a public gaff, the GOP might move on.