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You're conveniently overlooking that fact that it was the Dems siding with McCarthy the weekend before last that kept the government open, DCLawyer. And then he went on "Face the Nation" the very next morning and attempted to blame them for his own party's dysfunction. If you want to focus your ire, look at folks like Gaetz and MTG who, make no mistake, want to burn it all down.

I'm tired of this nonsensical whining about the Dems (the House minority party, mind you) not saving a guy who voted to overturn the 2020 election, a guy who then flew to Mar-a-Lago to kiss his mob boss's ring and the guy who has greenlit a tractionless, evidence-free impeachment inquiry into the current president. Walk me through the Dem motivation for saving that guy again?

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And I'm tired of people who make excuses for childish behavior, so I guess we're even.

I'm not conveniently forgetting anything. He gave them pretty much what they wanted in the CR (all the controversial border stuff was out) and was willing to piss off his right wing. The blame for failure would have been entirely on them at that point.

In the motion to vacate, every Dem voted with Gaetz, MTG, et. al. The question wasn't whether Jeffries or McCarthy should be speaker, but whether there should be chaos.

So why vote "yes"? What do they get out of that?

Any new Speaker necessarily gets the message that working with Dems in the future will wind up on the street. Their vote empowered the MAGA wing. They're not dumb. They get it.

They get nothing out of Gaetz et al winning but Schadenfreude. Had they put country first, that would have been motivation enough.

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"I'm not conveniently forgetting anything." LOL. Well, DC Lawyer, except for the reality that the only reason McCarthy went to the Dems on Saturday morning was because his own party was intent on shutting down our government. Your fan fiction isn't reality.

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"His own party...". You're acting like he had a traditionally large majority, when in fact he is really the leader of the largest party in the coalition, and was held hostage by the leader of his coalition partners. If he had wanted the government shut, he wouldn't gone to the Dems. TBH I'd assumed they'd promised him enough support in a motion to vacate (at least some members conveniently gone home early). The fact that he faced the MTV with NO promises surprised me.

As for "fan fiction" please find and paste all of my pro Trump and/or pro Congressional comments.

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